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  Here's Why the Watchtower Won't Speak Out Against Islam "Craig Winn" Interview 1

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  craig winn is one of the most authoritative individuals of islam there is, he's done more research and written extensive on why islam is so dangerous.

  his books were written after 9-11-01, now when you listen to his interview get the gist of why islam is not "the religion of peace", it's quite the opposite and even if anyone claims it is, the most respected leaders of islam are blunt with their desire to purge the world of all non-islamic religions.

  that never works out well for them because they get rid of all their workers, intellectuals and professionals who flee to some place they can worship or not worship in peace.

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  "kicked their asses back to Arabia"

  Not quite - in fact not even by a long shot! Across the Straits of Gibraltar and into North Africa, from whence they had come, more like.

  Incidentally, Moslem rule of Spain was not all blood and guts, either. Christians were still free to practice their religion, and during those years, the three centres of learning in the entire world were Cordoba, Bagdhad and Constantinople - with two of those centres being under Moslem rule. Scholars were not only tolerated, they were actually welcomed - not viewed as heretics, like they were in the lands dominated by the Roman Catholic church.

  Bill
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  Gerrit Losch talks to poor South Americans about Materialism while wearing THREE (3) gold rings and 2 gold cuff links...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  he also talks trash about higher education .... (for those who know some spanish, view this youtube video...).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suxhx1ho_nq.

  what an idiot.. .

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  1) The time left before the end is reduced.

  I like that one!

  The time left 45 years ago was also "reduced"; "reduced" enough to allow sufficient time for:

  - These jerks to prevent me from going to university.

  - These same prize acts to get me to abandon my apprenticeship.

  - Me to later resume that same apprenticeship, and complete it in a related trade.

  - My entering into engineering studies as a mature age student, and set for graduating in mid-2015 , with an Advanced Diploma.

  Gormless Gerrit, you could at least come up with something (just a little) original. Mate, if your brains consisted of nothing more than dynamite, I doubt if there would be enough there to even blow your bloody nose!

  Bill.
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  Why is the world full of ATHEISTS?

  by exWTslave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bible describes atheism as a condition of the heart and is all about seeking what is ephemeral, not acting with insight.

  (psalm 14:1, 2) thus it rightly says the whole world is lying in the attraction of what is ephemeral.

  (wicked one is not a correct translation.1 john 5:19) thus even believers who pray to god (for material blessings) are actually atheists as they are not trying to be poor in spirit.

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  Bungi Bill

  "Why is the world full of atheists?"

  Using the vernacular of where I grew up, I would say because a lot of people have had a complete gutsfull of religion.

  Bill
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  Contradictory geneology of Jesus

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i'm reading another carl sagan book and he seems to invariably find a way to slam j-dubs in each one.

  (i can't say i blame him.).

  anyway, in this one he discusses the fact that the gospels give contradictory geneologies of jesus--differing lines back to david from joseph, and a different number of generations.

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  Bungi Bill

  I remember the smart @$$ "pioneer" brother who "brought me into the truth", as we used to say.

  Whenever anybody tried to tell him that the first five books of the Bible are pure mythology (which was the official position of most, if not all, of the mainstream churches), he used to point this above-mentioned lineage of Jesus Christ, and challenge "Where does the truth cease and the mythology start?" Supposedly a thought stopper!

  Bill.
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  Said from the platform: "You are not surviving Armaggedon if you are spiritually weak"

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).

  in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".

  our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.

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  Bungi Bill

  So much for salvation being a "free gift from God" like the Bible says it is. According to this lot, it is salvation by report card !

  Bill.
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  I do not miss anything about the conventions

  by Darth Fader The Sequel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this weekend nearly everyone i have ever known or that i am related to is sitting in a convention.

  i miss none of it!!!!.

  i do not miss:.

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  Bungi Bill

  The only thing about conventions that I ever looked forward to was when the bloody thing was going to end!

  Bill
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  The Rise Of The Brics Alliance

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-19/brics-plan-become-political-alliance-reform-international-financial-system.

  step by step, the chinese seem to be building a complete alternative financial system - independent of anglo-america.

  this includes their own version of the imf and their own credit rating agency (which just downgraded the debt of the us).. meanwhile, the world obsesses with putin - which has all the appearance of the western world 'being played' by a "good cop, bad cop" routine.

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  Who thinks living in China or Russia is a picnic?

  Did anyone make that claim?

  Bill
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  The Rise Of The Brics Alliance

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-19/brics-plan-become-political-alliance-reform-international-financial-system.

  step by step, the chinese seem to be building a complete alternative financial system - independent of anglo-america.

  this includes their own version of the imf and their own credit rating agency (which just downgraded the debt of the us).. meanwhile, the world obsesses with putin - which has all the appearance of the western world 'being played' by a "good cop, bad cop" routine.

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  kaik,

  Very true - and so much for that arch-dingbat, Frederick Franz, and his talk of the "King of the North" being the "Communist Block."

  The facts are that the Chinese Communists achieved power without any more than token assistance from the Soviet Union, they certainly took no orders from Joseph Stalin, and after 1960 neither country even pretended that they were on the same side.

  Yugoslav Communism owed allegiance to nobody at all (Tito having hoisted the proverbial two-fingered salute at Stalin at the end of WWII), and North Vietnam likewise took no orders from anybody else (while Ho Chi Mihn and his successors accepted help from whoever would give it to them, they were not being directed by either Moscow or Peking - as that whizz kid Henry Kissinger found out when he thought that by acquiring friendship with the USSR and China, he could then get them to call off North Vietnam!)

  If a "Communist Block" under "Soviet leadership" did indeed exist, then it existed only inside Fred Franz's head!

  Bill
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  They continue to drop like flies

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.

  they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.

  they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .

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  The GB takes everything away and replaces it with nothing

  As WC Stevenson expressed it in his 1975 - Year of Doom? "no other religious group would demand so much from its followers, in return for so little."

  For the most part, those that have remained with the JW religion seem to pay lip service to its more extreme requirements, but in private keep their own counsel. Which begs the question, why bother at all?

  Bill.
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  Online Higher Education

  by SonoftheTrinity in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since the faithful and discreet slave class now opposes higher education because it allegedly brings with it 'bad association', i wonder what their take is on online education.

  let's remember that distance education was pioneered by fundamentalist saudi arabia and apartheid south africa for the very reasons that the jehovah's witnesses criticize higher education.

  my wife is one of the faithful and i fear for our kids future, that they will see no point in keeping their grades up.

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  Bungi Bill

  I can only say this again - the online engineering course that I am doing does permit ready interaction between students and instructor, or between students and each other. It is a simple matter of speaking into a microphone, and listening through a set of headphones!

  As to online colleges being somehow inferior to others, in this part of the world such prestigious insitutions as Deakin, Monash, Griffith and Curtin Universities offer online courses.

  Bill.